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I love my little mama and my km tank....my problem is carto's...I am vaping vermillion river Minnesota menthol, which is notoriously thick, and have hit and miss results with my carto's at the moment...I am using boge 2.7's punching between 3 and 4 holes, and for some reason depending on the carto it just won't wick! My only resolution seems to be to squeeze the tank to reduce airflow and suck without firing the provari...this isn't ideal as I end up with a mouthful of juice and purple cheeks! Anyone else had similar issues? Any ideas what may help? For some reason it isn't all the time, just depends on which individual carto I have in their...it's making me sad!
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Have you tried watering the juice down with Vodka? heard that helps although not tried it myself

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With the lil mama lift the top cap at 1 side slightly and it will suck juice in to the carto,you will see air bubbles come out of the hole
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Thank you both! I don't want to thin the juice cause I love the flavour...does it change it much! The lift the side trick seems to work! Great tip!!
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A few drops of distilled water could make the world of difference with no change of taste or very little change, i know when i added just 3ml of water to a 30ml bottle it made a huge difference to the thickness and no noticable change to the taste, but try with a 5ml sample first, dont want you to waste your favourite juice now.
I did try with vodka when i did not have water around and felt it gave a smell change but not really a flavour change as i only added a few drops.
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View Postflubaluba, on 03 February 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

A few drops of distilled water could make the world of difference with no change of taste or very little change, i know when i added just 3ml of water to a 30ml bottle it made a huge difference to the thickness and no noticable change to the taste, but try with a 5ml sample first, dont want you to waste your favourite juice now.
I did try with vodka when i did not have water around and felt it gave a smell change but not really a flavour change as i only added a few drops.
Worth giving it a go! Although I have noticed maybe my holes are too low which could be a factor...they are exposed but only the top half of each one is visible...my puncher must be slightly off!
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Try making the holes slightly bigger in the carto, rather than more holes, have wider holes without going too deep. I have to do this with my OKS DF VG which is very thick, I'm using a siam mods hole punch screw at the moment and daren't go too deep as it will mess up the insides so have to use a wide screw to get the hole about right.
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View PostMartin1968, on 02 February 2012 - 10:50 PM, said:

With the lil mama lift the top cap at 1 side slightly and it will suck juice in to the carto,you will see air bubbles come out of the hole

Just tried that on mine Martin and it realy does work! Cheers :)
And as you can see........It produces a really nice amount of vapour!

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View PostMartin1968, on 02 February 2012 - 10:50 PM, said:

With the lil mama lift the top cap at 1 side slightly and it will suck juice in to the carto,you will see air bubbles come out of the hole

Great tip!
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Good tips coming through here!! Thank you all for your comments!
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One more question to anyone still out there.....how do you know when you have punched too far?
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View PostCotty77, on 04 February 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

One more question to anyone still out there.....how do you know when you have punched too far?

not sure on that one but all you are really trying to do is make a hole in the side so juice can get in so you shouldnt have to punch the hole very far in.

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Think I may have gone too deep!!
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If the hole is too deep you will puncture the centre tube and the carto will flood all the time
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View Postflubaluba, on 03 February 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

A few drops of distilled water could make the world of difference with no change of taste or very little change, i know when i added just 3ml of water to a 30ml bottle it made a huge difference to the thickness and no noticable change to the taste, but try with a 5ml sample first, dont want you to waste your favourite juice now.
I did try with vodka when i did not have water around and felt it gave a smell change but not really a flavour change as i only added a few drops.

Does the vodka work just as well, I have no distiller water...ummmm where do you get it?
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Vodka works perfectly well as a thinner for liquid. If you're worried about alcohol in your vapour just leave the lid off the bottle for a while and stick it next to a heat source. The alcohol will evaporate off in short order and you'll be left with something akin to just distilled water (with a few impurities depending on the vodka). I've been using cheapo stuff from Lidl without any smell/flavour problems, but would never even try it with something like Smirnoff which seems to be filtered through gravel. The more it tastes of nothing, the higher the purity. You do only need a very tiny amount to thin out your liquid tho, so make sure you don't go overboard with it.

I've still not found a decent source for distilled water. Don't use ironing water because that all seems to be scented, and you can get some from garages or petrol stations too but I've found that seems to be less pure than tap water. Neither of those is really meant for inhalation, whereas vodka with most of the alcohol evaporated off is probably safe.

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If you keep tropical fish... and have a reverse osmosis unit, you can use that (the RO water, I mean, not the fish) :)

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