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[oldun]

Evenin' all.......after a bit of advice from you old timers/long termers.I have bought a few 10mm bottles from enjuice,to see what I like,so far this is my view.
Menthol Mist (premium)quite foul...really don't like it.

Caramel Latte(premium)tastes like that cup of decent coffee you have let go cold smells....... the split second before you get a cold mouthfull!Not my bag.

RY44 premium/value,taste the same,good TH,but not very keen,weird damp woody taste?

Caramel apple pie(value)........LOVE IT!!!!!!

Toffee apple,nice but too weak to hit the spot.

Toffee nut,bit confused on this one .

All of the above on a Vgo with v3 cartos at 18mg.

Now I am not dissing any of the above some will probably swear by some /hate others,but what I have found is the RY44(either one)mixed 15 drops to 10 drops of the toffee apple give a nice strong day vape,with a good th but masking the *odd* woody damp thing,followed by the apple pie,in the afternoon/eve.

For now I am happy,have just ordered 30mm bottles of each of the above,but in a 24mg strength.

My question is,has anyone tried the above two/three or had any success mixing them themselves,or buying similar from other vendors?It is still massively cheaper than smokes,but I can't help thinking,there must be a more economical way to end up at the same place.

Thanks in advance.

[Boadacia]

Some say that steeping them will improve the taste, so you might want to leave the caps off and give that a try for 24/48 hours for the ones listed that didn't impress you. I mix a lot of Anise in my dodgy and borderline juices, not to have to sling them down the sink, and it's a little saviour! The other point is it seems we can climatise too, the longer we vape, and, as our first introductions to booze, it can improve, so best to keep them a while maybe?

[CambridgeCowboy]

Caramel is my juice saver, anything that I don't like i just add caramel until it's bearable. Black tea is my current fav vape, trouble is I now crave tea almost as much as I did fags. Flavours seem to be pretty personal, particularly the 'tobacco' flavours, find a couple that you like and stick to them would be my advice.

Personally I love FlavourArt juices, EU sourced and reasonably cheap (about £15 for 100ml). Delivery can be a bit slow but they do offer a mixing service where you can get them to add any of their flavourings to the base liquid of your choice to save your kitchen ending up looking like some mad chemists lab.

[Boadacia]

Nothing wrong with mad chemists, or a kitchen full of bottles of juice, and I'd marry one if I could stand living with anyone.

[ladymarmalade]

Boadacia, on 15 February 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

Some say that steeping them will improve the taste, so you might want to leave the caps off and give that a try for 24/48 hours for the ones listed that didn't impress you.

You're meant to leave the caps off when steeping? I didn't know this...

[schueyace]

This whole liquid thing does my head in,i normally only use 2 juices and they are trogs flu cured and his french pipe well im right off the french pipe and fancied a bit of a change from the flu cured although i do always go back to it in the end,well ive ended up with a few different samples to try and to be honest they will be going in the bin another waste of time and money,i think we should have like a swap shop where if you buy a sample and dont like it you can swap it with a sample from someone else,i also totally agree with cowboy caramel is a great juice to add to flavours i put a few drops in my flu cured for a change and it just gives me that different taste for a bit,

ladymarmalade, on 16 February 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

Boadacia, on 15 February 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

Some say that steeping them will improve the taste, so you might want to leave the caps off and give that a try for 24/48 hours for the ones listed that didn't impress you.

You're meant to leave the caps off when steeping? I didn't know this...

i think you do leave the cap off also some put there juice in dark places while there steeping

[Boadacia]

Unfortunately as has been written it can be expensive to experiment, but many will swap their virtually unused juices here in the classifieds. Because tastes are so subjective, one must really try them, to know if they are going to be a regular vape.

[jlawrence]

Just swap them in the pif thread.
Taste is very personal and you really won't know what you like until you try it.

[schueyace]

LOL didnt know about that,great thank you jl.

[capnhack]

schueyace, on 16 February 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

i think you do leave the cap off also some put there juice in dark places while there steeping

You don't have to leave the cap off, but that does seem to speed up the process. It'll still happen with the caps on, which may be a better option for very low nic liquids due to oxygen reacting with the nicotine. For the same reason (preserving nicotine), liquids should always be stored in a cool dark place whether steeping or not. If you aren't making your way through a bottle right now, stick it somewhere cool, dark, and reasonably dry. I keep mine in the fridge (for steeping and storage) and never had any problems, but some flavours react badly to the cold and potential moisture of a fridge, so something like an old humidor is perfect for those that don't like fridges. Leave the sponge inside dry, and if you can lock it too that's an added bonus. Never steep with the lid off in a fridge because the moisture will cause problems then.

[ladymarmalade]

capnhack, on 16 February 2012 - 11:46 AM, said:

schueyace, on 16 February 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

i think you do leave the cap off also some put there juice in dark places while there steeping

liquids should always be stored in a cool dark place whether steeping or not.

This reminds me, I need to get a box for all my bits. Currently in one of those clear plastic boxes with a clip on lid, probably not the best plan then!

[capnhack]

ladymarmalade, on 16 February 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

capnhack, on 16 February 2012 - 11:46 AM, said:

schueyace, on 16 February 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

i think you do leave the cap off also some put there juice in dark places while there steeping

liquids should always be stored in a cool dark place whether steeping or not.

This reminds me, I need to get a box for all my bits. Currently in one of those clear plastic boxes with a clip on lid, probably not the best plan then!

Eh, just stick it in a (non-airing) cupboard and it'll be fine. It's UV that reacts with nicotine so that's why it's best to avoid light. Some bottles may provide UV protection but I've never seen any actual facts about this from any vendor, so darkness is best. It also keeps them out of sight of anyone who may think it wise to drink the liquid with the tasty smell.

[MrGiggly]

To speed up steeping I bung a cup of water in the microwave for 60 secs, take it out and pop the capped bottles in and let em sit there till the water reaches room temperature. If I can be bothered I shake them a few times during the process.

[Kris]

I read on the big international e cig forum (no sure if were allowed to mention other forums names or link to them here are we? ) that you shouldnt leave the caps off as it destroys the nicotene content. There is quite a lot of debate over it. Some say taking the caps off is bad and 24mg can be reduced to 2mg over the course of 72 hours. Im not sure how true this is though.

[Boadacia]

Kris, on 19 February 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

I read on the big international e cig forum (no sure if were allowed to mention other forums names or link to them here are we? ) that you shouldnt leave the caps off as it destroys the nicotene content. There is quite a lot of debate over it. Some say taking the caps off is bad and 24mg can be reduced to 2mg over the course of 72 hours. Im not sure how true this is though.

I'd say that's on a par with Jesus is coming back tomorrow, and Murdoch will be giving him all his money to ensure his place.

[capnhack]

Kris, on 19 February 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

I read on the big international e cig forum (no sure if were allowed to mention other forums names or link to them here are we? ) that you shouldnt leave the caps off as it destroys the nicotene content. There is quite a lot of debate over it. Some say taking the caps off is bad and 24mg can be reduced to 2mg over the course of 72 hours. Im not sure how true this is though.

Yea it doesn't reduce it anywhere near that much if you take some precautions, but exposure to oxygen and moisture and UV light do tend to destroy nicotine over time. As long as it's somewhere dark, dry, and cool then it'll be fine and any drop in nic won't be noticeable. Airing cupboards are too warm, fridges and bathrooms are too humid, so somewhere like under the stairs or out in the shed is probably best for lidless steeping, or in a humidor as mentioned above. Lots of people seem to heat up the liquid as part of the steeping process but I don't see that being a great idea unless you could stand to lose some nicotine.

It surprises me that anyone on ECF would give credence to this since that level of drop in nicotine is very noticeable indeed, but perhaps people are being told to take the lids off without any further advice regarding where to leave the bottle.

[oldun]

Boadacia, on 15 February 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

Some say that steeping them will improve the taste, so you might want to leave the caps off and give that a try for 24/48 hours for the ones listed that didn't impress you. I mix a lot of Anise in my dodgy and borderline juices, not to have to sling them down the sink, and it's a little saviour! The other point is it seems we can climatise too, the longer we vape, and, as our first introductions to booze, it can improve, so best to keep them a while maybe?

Sooooo......a week later,the latte is still pants,the menthol is still chemicalish and the nutty toffee thing is still weird,but the ry44 with toffee apple added is still the all day and the caramel apple pie is still the evening jobby.
Thanks for all the replies,but still no mixoligistas with a recipe to recreate(oh and the 24mg seems to lessen the craving,but is a bit harsher on the throat.....normal?)

Edited by oldun, 19 February 2012 - 11:07 PM.

[Boadacia]

Some people love menthol (don't know why) so you can offer a trade maybe in the swap shop thread. Some, you just have to give up on. Anise and Absinthe are pretty good to alter them, so maybe you'll try that some time? And 24mg is far too raspy for me.

Edited by Boadacia, 19 February 2012 - 11:13 PM.

[capnhack]

oldun, on 19 February 2012 - 11:06 PM, said:

oh and the 24mg seems to lessen the craving,but is a bit harsher on the throat.....normal?

Yes that's normal because it's the nic that gives the throat hit and causes you to choke and cough if there's too much of it. If you think you need the extra nic (the other option is to simply vape more instead) then try a liquid with more VG in, and that should help to soothe your throat a little. PG really does a job on my throat and mouth because it absorbs a bunch of moisture, but VG doesn't do this.

[oldun]

Thanks people.