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[Morphies]

Good afternoon everyone.

I'm new to the vaping scene.

I took advantage(?) of a groupon offer for the vipelectronic ecig starter pack, For £24 (ish) i received a USB charger, battery and 15 menthol 16mg cartomisers.

And, since I received them Monday 1pm, I've not had an "analog" since. I was previously a 10 a day smoker. So bonus there!

However, since I order this pack, I've done a lot of reading, and have come to the decision that my best option when I run out of carts is to look at a tank system. I've got my eye on the 510 tank system.

But, here's where I get a little confused.

I know there are a lot of own brand 510t systems, with different bits and bobs included, such as extra batteries and the likes. Now the batteries are fairly obvious on what they do.

What I don't understand properly are the atomisers.

I get the basic concept, the tank drips the eliquid into the atomiser and the battery runs an element that vaporises it which I then inhale.

My main questions are.

1. why do I need more than 1 atomiser?

2. Why should I bother purchasing a "starter" kit at £50 when I can get a tank atomiser for £7.99 (with 2 tank cartidges) a battery for about £10 and a charger for £7 (totalling £25.00)

Obviously there is a need for multiple batteries and possibly more tanks. but still the starter kit (looking at totally wicked) doesn't seem to add up against the cost of purchasing like for like individually. Unless I'm missing something.

Also, am I ok to leave a battery on charge on the USB overnight?

Thanks for any and all advice.

Chris.

Edited by Morphies, 22 February 2012 - 04:38 PM.

[doc2803]

id go to safercigs and check out the " i mist " a superb intro to tanks a lot of experienced vapers rate it highly, atomisers are disposable items, you allways need a spare, in most peoples case more than several spares. never get stuck without an atty no juice no vape no atty no vape simples

ps i have left an ego type on charge overnight in an emergency but wouldnt recomend as a matter of course

Edited by doc2803, 22 February 2012 - 05:35 PM.

[Boadacia]

The answer to most of your questions is because they rely on the total ignorance of people coming into vaping. It's up to the individual to be smart. Or not, as in some cases.

[Dirtdevil]

Welcome to the forum

I think your questions have been answered, not tried the imist myself yet but it does look like a nice piece of kit. Also take a look in the shopping section to find some good vendors, there are plenty that frequent the forum and are very helpful, also TW are generally a fair bit dearer on their pricing unless you catch a yo yo deal. There's also a list of discount codes for various vendors in that section too.

Pull up a chair and have a good read and importantly have some fun

Jon

[ladymarmalade]

I've got a serious dose of the shinies with the Imist...

To answer your question - atomisers wear out - how long they last can be pot luck. I got 4 tank atties in Jan and I still have 3 going strong - I do soak them in rubbing alcohol every now and then. I'm not a heavy vaper though and I've been direct dripping on Bauway atties in the evening (non-tank, which I bought cos I'm a noob fool) and vaping the tanks during the day.

For 510s you'll need two batteries cos their battery life is not good. You'll need two atties as well, and the tanks. So work out how much that comes to and see if it's cheaper than the starter kit?

[Dekzion]

Hiya and welcome Morphies.

Or you could relax and take the scenic route with a very good setup from Jacvapour.com.
Couple of batteries in a nice personal charging case (PCC), a few empty or filled cartomisers (they have the vapouriser built in to every one of them) pick a nice flavour of liquid, and settle back with the Forum until you want to spend all the lovely dosh you are saving from not smoking on lovely shiny bits and bobs.

Yep, tightwad happy vaper me.

Dek

[Treepairy]

two batterys, tends to be two tanks and a battery charger usb adapter with a usb charger. so you keep one in the pocket/work and the other charged up at home/glovebox.

i to was looking at the kits £40-70 was in two minds, then i found i could buy a battery, charger, and cartomizers for half the price. maybe i only have one battery but it does me fine and cost me half the price of the kits i was looking at.

choice is yours i went the single unit route and not looked back, but do research before you buy. make sure it is what you need/require.

eGo battery and the likes from safercigs was my bargain of the month (31 quid for my setup)

[ladymarmalade]

Dekzion, on 22 February 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

Or you could relax and take the scenic route with a very good setup from Jacvapour.com

I was about to suggest this - I got the 510t system and bought a PCC separately, cost me about €70 - could have saved a few bob if I'd had seen the Jacvapour set first!

[Tommy2bad]

My main questions are.

1. why do I need more than 1 atomiser?
Spare, so you don't have to do without till the new one arrives.

2. Why should I bother purchasing a "starter" kit at £50 when I can get a tank atomiser for £7.99 (with 2 tank cartidges) a battery for about £10 and a charger for £7 (totalling £25.00)

Obviously there is a need for multiple batteries and possibly more tanks. but still the starter kit (looking at totally wicked) doesn't seem to add up against the cost of purchasing like for like individually. Unless I'm missing something.
Two batterys eGo type and a box of cartomizers plus a charger 40 quid, use a discount code and it's less.Juice is a variable alow for 3 ml a day. Oh and cartos are variables two, some people get week out of them, I get 2 days.

Also, am I ok to leave a battery on charge on the USB overnight?
Yes, 999 times out of a 1000, safe as leaving your phone charging or something like that.

Your not missing much tbh, if you manage with the little single batt your using you'll be fine with one 650mAh battery.
You would do better with two again spares, and spares for the spares.
If it cost thats bothering you, it's mostly up front for the initial kit, after that use determines your spend.
A cartomizer (like the top bit of the kit you have) costs 1.50 to 2 quid, you smoked 10 a day costing lungs and skin and holes in cloths along with the cash. Ecigs cost half that and you get to keep your lungs and skin and cloths.

[Dekzion]

Cartomisers last 2 days??
I have cartomisers that are over 4 months old.
It's a learning curve, let them get too low regarding liquid and the wick will burn out, simple physics.
keep them topped up and they go for as long as you want, honest!
Yep, I even wash them out under hot water to change flavours or when I think they are getting gunked up.

[Boadacia]

Dekzion, on 22 February 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

Cartomisers last 2 days??
I have cartomisers that are over 4 months old.

What the hell are they doing with them?

[cpbaz]

Boadacia, on 22 February 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

Dekzion, on 22 February 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

Cartomisers last 2 days??
I have cartomisers that are over 4 months old.

What the hell are they doing with them?

Your mileage will definitely vary.

[Morphies]

Evening all,

Thanks for all the replies. I'm a little clearer on what I'd need for the 510t system, however now the jacvapour has been thrown in the mix it all starts getting blurry again!

The PCC kit's look pritty good value for money.

I'm not overly worrids right now, as I have quite a supply of carts for my current ecig.

This may sound dumb, but why would you choose prefiled cartomisers over refillable? Just for ease?

I feel the amount of vapour i'm getting out of my VIPe-cig isn't sufficient for me. Would this increase with the PCC kit or the 510t?

In response to tommy, It's a mental thing really, I dont like to spend money on something I'm not sure about. I completely understand the benifits of vaping over smoking, but that doesn't mean I need to go launching quite large amounts of money in something I know little about.

Edited by Morphies, 22 February 2012 - 06:38 PM.

[Boadacia]

To save yourself any grief and expense, Just get yourself two Vgo batteries, as they beat the pants off most others out there, and just buy some carto's and some small samples of juice in case it's pooey. The USB charger, and Bobby's yer auntie.

[Zombiemodder]

if your a more patient soul i would recommend trying dripping , pull out the wicking material out of the cartridge and drop 2 o3 drops at a time , you will discover better flavour and vapour although it is a pain dripping all the time. you will find with the tank system can be problematic as they are still really in development and you will suffer leakage at some point , the thing to learn with tank systems is removing the tank and clearing the atomiser by removing it and blowing out any residue..then vaping without the tank until the atty dries a little of fluid. its all trial and error to see which suits you best....there are no better or worse ways of vapourising with standard atty's they all work the same and brands are from the same places as unbranded ones, admittedly some are better than others though..
all the very best on your vaping learning curve...

[ladymarmalade]

Boadacia, on 22 February 2012 - 06:44 PM, said:

To save yourself any grief and expense, Just get yourself two Vgo batteries, as they beat the pants off most others out there, and just buy some carto's and some small samples of juice in case it's pooey. The USB charger, and Bobby's yer auntie.

Are Vgos the same as Egos?

[Boadacia]

ladymarmalade, on 22 February 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

Boadacia, on 22 February 2012 - 06:44 PM, said:

To save yourself any grief and expense, Just get yourself two Vgo batteries, as they beat the pants off most others out there, and just buy some carto's and some small samples of juice in case it's pooey. The USB charger, and Bobby's yer auntie.

Are Vgos the same as Egos?

I had an Ego VV and the Vgo beat that (using the same carto') - at it's highest setting of the 3 it has, which is supposed to be 4.2v, so in my opinion Vgo's win.

[ladymarmalade]

If I were to purcase one, could I use the Imist atties? I like the look of them!

[Zombiemodder]

i guess it depends on where your supplier got them from, there are many different versions but they are basically the same as the ego , some are vv and some have led charge status lights etc...basically a polished ego, the attys off an ego will fit on a kgo but thats another one...lol... hard to keep up these days some even have stripes..oh wait thats a zebra

[ladymarmalade]

Aaargh, now I'm confused! They have 510 threads I take it?