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[Zombiemodder]

ladymarmalade, on 22 February 2012 - 07:46 PM, said:

Aaargh, now I'm confused! They have 510 threads I take it?

yep and most will take the generic ego-t atty or 510

[Dekzion]

Zombiemodder, on 22 February 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

if your a more patient soul i would recommend trying dripping , pull out the wicking material out of the cartridge and drop 2 o3 drops at a time , you will discover better flavour and vapour although it is a pain dripping all the time. you will find with the tank system can be problematic as they are still really in development and you will suffer leakage at some point , the thing to learn with tank systems is removing the tank and clearing the atomiser by removing it and blowing out any residue..then vaping without the tank until the atty dries a little of fluid. its all trial and error to see which suits you best....there are no better or worse ways of vapourising with standard atty's they all work the same and brands are from the same places as unbranded ones, admittedly some are better than others though..
all the very best on your vaping learning curve...

Dont ya just lurv it?

You see Morphies, you've started something here.
There are some fine people here that love to fiddle with lots of bits and bobs continuously, and then there are some fine people that like to sit back and enjoy a good vape whilst doing more important things in life.

Secretly though, I believe that those that like to fiddle with their bits and bobs grab a regular battery and carto as they rush out of the door.

Yep, will agree though Jacvapours VGo battery is the way to go and some of his apple juice eh Boady?

[TonyB]

Dekzion, on 22 February 2012 - 10:21 PM, said:

Secretly though, I believe that those that like to fiddle with their bits and bobs grab a regular battery and carto as they rush out of the door.

Well I thought I like to fiddle but now I've got my Don and Siam tank I'm quite happy to just fill it and sit without fiddling with it for the rest of the day, or at least until it needs filling again. And yes, I quite often just grab my little SDK fitted with a common or garden Boge when I rush out the door for the school run.

[Morphies]

Started a bit of a debate here!

Which is great, and very interesting.

I'm by no means a fiddler. I'd like to spend a bit of money on a system that gives me a nice vape that will last a bit. Not something that in a months time I'm thinking about upgrading (although, by the chatter on this forum that's inevitable).

The PCC looks interesting, but to be honest, I'm getting along fine with the 1 little battery I have right now. So don't see the point of it.

I've heard that dripping is a bit annoying, I like to game at night (xbox 360) and don't want to be fiddling with dripping.

Which brings me back onto the tank system. I take it bigger voltage on the battery = more vapour?

[Trog]

this place is about confusion.. every question gets ten different answers..

go read this.. ignore the proprietary stuff the information is mostly generic.. it is written to help noobs

http://www.cavecom.c.../faqindex.shtml

noobs have a large problem.. totally conflicting and confusing information from "users" or biased information from sellers.. we are a seller that really dosnt care whether you buy our stuff or not but we do try and help noobs..

trog

ps.. "tanks" are not about more vapour or bigger batteries they are about idleness and the daft idea of going all day with having to top up or touch your e cig..

for a noob simple pre-filled cartoonists work best.. use once and chuck being the best or most easy.. they can be topped up just like any cartomizer they just come properly filled with what amounts to free liquid.. how long they last is entirely down to how long the user tries to make them last..

in my case its a couple of days for some its months or so they claim..

Edited by Trog, 23 February 2012 - 11:46 AM.

[gotmoremilk]

Its probably easier to get 2 x riva/ego/vgo style batteries plus charger a couple of tanks and maybe a pack of cartomisers shouldnt cost much more than £40 and should last till the 'next best thing' phenomenom takes hold. You'll get a lot more vapour and throat hit from this than your current set up
You can always play as you go along with new bits of kit atomisers for direct dripping, cart tanks etc etc

[Boadacia]

Trog, on 23 February 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

in my case its a couple of days for some its months or so they claim..

Under Boady's engineering microscope, some are manufactured significantly better than others too, with burrs and swarf left all over. If made in 'Sing Ding Ling's' sweatshop come chicken factory, the workers might have been tired after their 20 hour shifts 7 days a week, soldering whilst the other arm plucks chickens, and not cared too much about their soldering quality, only whether they were going to die of exhaustion and fall in the solder vat, or end up vacuum wrapped with the plucked chickens.

But basically, the main problem is inexperience handling them, and listening to some clowns with degrees in Knobistics who recommend messing about and cleaning them, and taking out the filler, dry firing rubbish, etc., for which there's absolutely no need. Ask yourself if you would strip your car engine, or the on-board computer, and give it a good scrubbing?

One can expect at least two weeks use, and some over a month, and that's being conservative. In a tank, constantly wicked wet, they might last longer. But only with some makes too, and finding them, is the task. Of course, some will say taste and hit diminish quickly...

Edited by prof beard, 24 February 2012 - 02:59 PM.
"Cleansing"

[ladymarmalade]

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degrees in Knobistics who recommend messing about and cleaning them

I have found that upon finding my attie is, for want of a better word, dead, a night in the booze bath, followed by a cold shower and a lie down somewhere warm does a fairly good job of resurrecting it. One attie is so dead even Jesus couldn't bring it back to life, but there's no harm in attempting a fix before you chuck it in the bin.

For your information my degree was in English Lit, not Knobistics, though Knobistics might have served me better.

[Morphies]

Hi All,

Just a quick one, I'm on the verge of ordering a PCC from jacvapour.com

Quick question on this one:

5x cartomsiers or refills (choice of flavour and strength)

Obviously the cartomisers are atomiser and tank in one, but are they refillable?

And the refills, do they require an atomiser?

I'm assuming that refillable are a more economical way to vape....

Sorry for the noob questions :-)

[ladymarmalade]

Cartomisers are kind of disposable, though I have one that's still working after a few top-ups.

[Boadacia]

Morphies, on 23 February 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

Hi All,

Just a quick one, I'm on the verge of ordering a PCC from jacvapour.com

Quick question on this one:

5x cartomsiers or refills (choice of flavour and strength)

Obviously the cartomisers are atomiser and tank in one, but are they refillable? = Yes.

And the refills, do they require an atomiser? = Nope they are cartomizers so have it all in one.

I'm assuming that refillable are a more economical way to vape....= Yes

Sorry for the noob questions :-)

[Omaran]

Morphies, on 23 February 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

Hi All,

Just a quick one, I'm on the verge of ordering a PCC from jacvapour.com

Quick question on this one:

5x cartomsiers or refills (choice of flavour and strength)

Obviously the cartomisers are atomiser and tank in one, but are they refillable?

And the refills, do they require an atomiser?

I'm assuming that refillable are a more economical way to vape....

Sorry for the noob questions :-)

Hi Morphies, I actually have 2 PCC's from Jacvapour - the excel (which is great because you can charge 2 batteries at once and has loads of room for spare cartos), and the V1P kit which is smaller but is what I use when I go out to the pub.

All you need is the battery and the cartomiser, the cartomiser has wadding in it that is soaked with liquid and they can be refilled easily. The Jacvapour website says they can be refilled up to 5 times, in reality they can be filled more than that as long as you top them up and don't let then dry out too much. When they start to taste 'burnt' even after filling it's time to chuck it and use a fresh one.

You will find what is best for you, it's been about 5 weeks for me and has been a learning curve, the best thing you can do in my opinion is to just rotate a couple of cartos until they need chucking - don't have all 5 on the go at once or you will get confused to how many times you have used each one!

I would also buy some blank cartos and then get some eliquid from other websites so you can find some liquids you really like, then you will be set as long as you have spare batteries, spare cartos and some good liquid.

I've only tried 3 flavours from jacvapour, the REDS I got with my kit (not bad), I also bought some Tobacco Virgin (Golden Virginia) and Desert Ship (Camels), all of them take a bit of getting used to but are not bad at all, my favourite of those being the Desert Ship. I have since bought (from Vapourzone) a 50ml bottle of Desert Ship and a 50ml bottle of RY4 (I tried a smaller bottle of RY4 first), these are my main vapes now, RY4 most of the time, Desert Ship when I am on the booze

It will be trial and error, but you will get there in the end!

[Onceupon]

Tommy2bad, on 22 February 2012 - 06:22 PM, said:

Ecigs cost half that and you get to keep your lungs and skin and cloths.

Really? I vape for approximately one-sixth of the cost packet smokers put up with. Sometimes just one-eighth.

Edited by Onceupon, 23 February 2012 - 06:53 PM.

[smokeydokie]

If you are new to it all id just suggest getting a simple ego v v battery go to www.vapourhut.com get the vv battery with a charger or they do a kit builder where you could have 2 vv batterys and 2 dif tanks systems.I got this kit for my gf she loves it it gives off good vapour and is easy to use.Then when you get bored order a couple of vision ego stardusts from safer cigs these are brill, best of all they will fit straight onto the batterys!!

http://vapourhut.com...0kit/VH-Builder
EDIT to say there is a 10% discount at vapour hut too HUT10

http://www.safercigs...83_5779009.aspx

These things are fantastic easy to use and have more kick with the varible voltage batterys and will last most the day per battery


Smokey

Edited by smokeydokie, 23 February 2012 - 10:48 PM.

[wobblybob]

R=V/I , for wicks see oil lamps e cigs are not a science , its high school physics . But what do I know only been using them for five months oh and Iv'e been a electronics bench repair engineer for 20yrs .

Edited by prof beard, 24 February 2012 - 03:10 PM.
"Cleansing"

[niman]

you might want to check out whats in the wick mind

[jlawrence]

wobblybob, on 23 February 2012 - 11:27 PM, said:

R=V/I , for wicks see oil lamps e cigs are not a science , its high school physics . But what do I know only been using them for five months oh and Iv'e been a electronics bench repair engineer for 20yrs . It seems if your opinion differs from troggs and his sycophants it's worthless and is shot down with snide remarks . Not a healthy forum this think I,ll be giving it a miss from now on . he he

You're right, it's not rocket science. For anyone who works with electronics they're incredibly simple devices.
BUT, you might be surprised to know that a lot of people don't understand v=ir, and wouldn't have a clue what an ohm was if it jumped up in front of them - let alone how to measure one.

Added:
Also bear in mind that most people seem to think it's perfectly ok to stack lion batteries without knowing that they have the same charges or not. And it's perfectly acceptable for someone to think that because a tube is big enough to shove two batteries in that must mean it's ok to do so - I don't understand the logic behind that myself.

Edited by jlawrence, 23 February 2012 - 11:43 PM.

[smokeydokie]

I agree its a mish mash of info and as stated opinions.What we need is a post for noobs with a poll maybe to say what the general thoughts on a good product for a noob????

THIS HAS TO BE EASY TO USE

NOT FAFFY

DOESN'T PUT PEOPLE OFF ECIGS

MAYBE WITH LINKS TO GOOD PRICED PRODUCTS TO EACH SUGGESTED PRODUCT IN THE POLL??

smokey

Edited by smokeydokie, 24 February 2012 - 02:17 AM.

[Onceupon]

Maff, on 24 February 2012 - 02:56 AM, said:

he's already bought a jacvapour thingy anyway now... lol.

If that's true, then he'd have saved himself a whole lot of trouble by simply calling into chat in the first place. It's one of our recommended starter kits for new vapers.

heh

[Trog]

without continually saying the same things over and over again (sounds familiar) there really aint that much to say about e cigs is there..

the forum gets noobs asking the same questions over and over again and a similar (mostly conflicting) display of answers over and over again..

after a while to most users it all gets boring and they move on.. new active users arrive.. nothing ever seems to get learned.. what is learned soon gets forgotten..

as onceupon says.. go buy a jacvapour thingy.. a while back it would have been a riva.. before that a tornego.. before that this place didnt exist..

what is needed is a good FAQ but it would not get used.. the noobs would still come and ask the same questions..

a nooby questions sub forum seems a bad idea.. maybe the noobs should read before asking.. maybe they do and cant make the slightest sense of any of it.. so they ask again.. and again for ever and ever..

with a good FAQ most folks would just quietly come and read it.. get what they want and go away..

trog

Edited by prof beard, 24 February 2012 - 03:20 PM.
"Cleansing"