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[doodlebug]

Here we go again...

http://news.bbc.co.u...000/9145313.stm

It's on a plate for the MHRA, if they bother to enforce it...

[Onceupon]

[xjohnukold]

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CautionSince its invention in 2003, the e-cigarette has been studied by health authorities across in the world. In some countries, it is banned.

Early in 2010, the UK Department of Health suggested consumers should "exercise caution" in the use of e-cigarettes until the findings of ongoing safety studies were published.

[justincase]

this is part and parcel of a new and growing market, i see all this as a good thing, because as the market grows and becomes more popular, the less power the banners will have.

[xjohnukold]

I can say this as of fact. Police know where drugs are being dealt. Which town, which street, in front of which house, and who... NOWT is done about it.

'E-cigs' enforcement??? It'll be the fear of it than the actuality of it that will put some people off. Basically, there is 'crime anarchy' out there, and we know it....

[zebbydog]

Can someone drop me PM when its time to start panic buying again

[Onceupon]

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So, the reality is, over time, it's a tool that can be used to reduce your dependence on nicotine.

Huh. They can stick their silly little e-fag now.

[xjohnukold]

Onceupon, on 05 November 2010 - 06:29 PM, said:

Huh. They can stick their silly little e-fag now.

Andy, on the subject of 'silly'... Doris in Flat 15 was making snide remarks about gettin' smells from yer vaping, effects on her asthma etc etc, when we were havin' breakfast this morning. I told her to stop being such a silly c*w, that no one liked her, and that she was ugly. She cried. Serves her right. But thought I'd give yer a 'heads up' in case the manager has a word. That's it.

[Onceupon]

I've been blowin' it under her door for the past month, John. There's a bit of history involved here but I won't bother you with all that. Folk are funny...

[xjohnukold]

Onceupon, on 05 November 2010 - 06:44 PM, said:

I've been blowin' it under her door for the past month, John. There's a bit of history involved here but I won't bother you with all that. Folk are funny...

Aye... I knew that. Mind... if you hadn't made that comment ".... even if you were the last woman on Earth....." over dinner t'other night, she wouldn't be stirring it. Problem is... daft Ethel is sayin' she can smell it too. And she's in Flat 44. Absurd.

Sorry our lovely Katherine... just discussing matters kicking off in The Home... as they call it...

Edited by xjohnuk, 05 November 2010 - 06:58 PM.

[Crossbow]

The really irritating thing about it is that the article itself is very well phrased, and the problem is a quote from the vendor. You'd think if you had sold a product to Tesco, you would have done the research first :S

[hifistud]

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So, the reality is, over time, it's a tool that can be used to reduce your dependence on nicotine."

Some folk are just too thick for their own good, are they not?? Fer feck's sake, the lad's got a massive marketing opportunity and he marches straight into a wall.

Mind you, we used to use a technique that went something like...

"so, would you say that the reality is, over time, it's a tool that can be used to reduce your dependence on nicotine?" and then keep your fingers crossed that the interviewee would just say "yes", in which case, you've got your quote, exactly as you want it.

The lesson, should anyone be interested, is always to record any interviews you give, and never, ever, answer a "would you say" with a straight "yes".

Edited by hifistud, 05 November 2010 - 08:37 PM.

[Toby]

It's true; the guy could have been duped or misquoted...

I reckon that e-cigs actually probably increase your dependence to nicotine; they make you realise how lovely it is! (without real smoke or stupid patches)

I wish these companies would simply quote my friends in Estonia -
"Smoke undisturbed, and without disturbing the others!"

[Tyke]

Toby, on 05 November 2010 - 08:54 PM, said:

It's true; the guy could have been duped or misquoted...

I reckon that e-cigs actually probably increase your dependence to nicotine; they make you realise how lovely it is! (without real smoke or stupid patches)

I don't think I'm any more or less dependent on nicotine than I was as a tobacco smoker, but I certainly enjoy it more, my breathing is a lot better and I don't smell like an ashtray.

[zebbydog]

Toby, on 05 November 2010 - 08:54 PM, said:

It's true; the guy could have been duped or misquoted...

I reckon that e-cigs actually probably increase your dependence to nicotine; they make you realise how lovely it is! (without real smoke or stupid patches)

Now that i would say is probably the truest statement I have read on here

[Trog]

it looks basically positive stuff to me.. and it is a tool that "could" be used to reduce nicotine dependence nothing particularly untruthful or harmful about that.. i think the (basically flawed) medicinal control argument has been dropped its now months after the original June announcement date.

as someone said a while back.. they are winging it.. trying it on.. hoping to get away with it.. they failed.. end of this part of the story..

e cigs in the likes of tescos begins the next part of the story.. basically the imediate panic is over..

trog

[John]

FWIW I've tried stupid (NRT) patches,gum and inhalers many times and failed in fact I still have some unused,and none give me the hit like e-cigs do it's proved itself many times since I started vaping,like if I'm having a few beers I usually revert back to analogs if on NRT products but not even a thought of picking one up whilst vaping ,I just wish I'd have got into e-cigs years ago its by far better than anything a GP could offer me. and NO! i will not give up my beers on the few occasions I can afford it and as for all NRT products including the funny pill champix (varenicline) if it works for some fine but it doesn't work for me so LEAVE MY E-CIGS AND E-LIQUIDS ALOOOOOONE

[xjohnukold]

Toby, on 05 November 2010 - 08:54 PM, said:

I reckon that e-cigs actually probably increase your dependence to nicotine; they make you realise how lovely it is!

Never thought about it quite like that, but then I have always considered my own vaping as a route to stopping smoking, but not quitting nicotine. Quitters get addicted to patches and gum... yeah... but vaping is MUCH more fun!

[Onceupon]

Hmm. Must remember to begin my nicotine-free Green Slime throat hit trial in the not-too-distant future...

[xjohnukold]

Onceupon, on 06 November 2010 - 03:51 PM, said:

Hmm. Must remember to begin my nicotine-free Green Slime throat hit trial in the not-too-distant future...

Aye... and if it doesn't kill yer, apparently it'll make you stronger... (I don't make this stuff up)









------------------------------------------------ Update:
Btw... Doris asked me into her flat to confirm that there was lingering vaping smell permeating in from your flat, that it wasn't just her imagination.

I took one sniff, and another couple to be sure, and told her that there was indeed a rather nasty background odour. More akin to an unwashed pile of rancid nylon stockings, wi' a hint o' mackeral. Which might account for a similar subtle smell in the hall (reported recently by Jacob Brothelmann to th'Environmental Health - he said it was a health hazard owing to the fact that it was bringing on undesired urges for a man his age wi' high cholesterol and a hernia. Council did nowt about it. He's writing to his MP).

Anyways, I told 'er straight... Nowt like vapers fumes. She cried. I went to the day room for a cuppa and a bourbon.

You were sat in th' pub, I assume. I really do not know why you go to 'Cock in Th'and'. Seems to me most of the customers are fat hairy males clad in studded leather motorbike gear... you told me you couldn't ride a bike. Fibber you are!