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[hifistud]

Crundy, on 30 December 2010 - 11:58 AM, said:

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Pregnancy: use only if smoking cessation without nicotine replacement fails; intermittent therapy preferable but avoid liquorice-flavoured nicotine products; patches should be removed before bed

So I'm guessing low dose vaping is better than high / medium dose NRT anyway, which is secondary treatment for pregnancy. I'm interested to know why liquorice flavoring should be avoided. Is liquorice teratogenic?

Edit2: Yup, liquorice contains glycyrrhizin which is teratogenic: http://news.bbc.co.u...ast/8292392.stm

Ooer - my mum had the bun in the oven cravings - smoked through her pregnancy with me, and craved fish and chips and liquorice - according to my dad, she got through a full retail box of liquorice a week. I'm a past president of my local Mensa (left now - got fed up and pissed off with the whole elitist mob). Thank goodness she both smoked and ate the liquorice, else I'd be hobnobbing with S. Hawkin Esq. on a daily basis!!!

[Crundy]

justincase, on 30 December 2010 - 01:11 PM, said:

lol, i bet nearly every 50 year old walking around today had a mother that smoked during their pregnancy. and they are not harmed.
the only danger to modern babies in the womb is abortion, but thats ok because its not really a baby, just a clump of cells,,its only a baby if you want to stick a fag in your mouth and smoke or eat the wrong foods when pregnant. lol

Just because not everyone is affected doesn't make it safe. A lot of mothers who took phalidomide gave birth to healthy babies. Risk reduction is the key point here.

[justincase]

elton john just had a baby, him and his wife were smoking each other every day and the baby is healthy.

[Kenny]

justincase, on 31 December 2010 - 01:55 PM, said:

elton john just had a baby, him and his wife were smoking each other every day and the baby is healthy.

[Onceupon]

Onceupon, on 21 December 2010 - 05:57 PM, said:

Time for the green stuff. Zero nic with a good throat kick.

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[Dandelion]

Kenny, on 21 December 2010 - 05:34 PM, said:

A good question Gopher and I don't know the answer but it all seems very strange to me.

Unless its the nicotine

Not all women can give up smoking when we’re pregnant, and most men don’t.



I would say, don’t smoke and don’t vape … but of the 2 … if one had to … vape, rather than smoke.



… but most of all … give birth to the loveliest baby in the world … yours.

[Cyberpixie]

If giving up smoking is enough to cause a large amount of stress to the mum to be, it has been known for midwives to say, that amount of stress is harmful for the baby and to carry on smoking yet cut down as much as possible. Vaping is not likely to be as harmful as setting light to a fag and breathing in all those fumes and nasty chemicals so if giving up smoking is going to cause her a lot of stress she'd would be better off vaping instead but remember it is still largely unknown how much of a risk vaping would be.

HOWEVER, the best thing to do of course is not to do either. But really the decision comes down to how comfortable you and your wife are with any of the 4 options (nothing, smoking or vaping or vaping no nic). No one else can make that decision for you. Plus no guarantees that just because smoking during one pregnancy turned out ok (as far as you know), doesn't mean it'll be ok a second time. Ultimately, the choice and risk are down to you and your wife.

[Cyberpixie]

Oops just realised this is on the wrong thread! *Duh!*

[thedon1daddy]

my wife is currently pregnant with our daughter who will arive early december. but we both know she will come 2 weeks early cos she did with my 2 sons lol. this is interesting though, with the 2 boys she quit like the snap of the finger and it didnt bother her one bit but then the late nights and stress kicked in she started to smoke again. this time on the other hand with the latest little bundle she has not quit but has managed to cut down but she cant seem to quit this time. she said she will start vaping after shes had the baby. im not exactly happy with her smoking but at the end of the day i think its her choice to smoke, quit or vape. peronaly i wish she could quit like she did with the boys but im not going to give her any rub for it. instead im just going to be as suportive as i can and just hope and cross my fingers that there are no health issues when the baby is born.
its hard for me as i want to do the best i can and i think its a really difficult spot to be in when you worry about the conciquences of all you hear about smoking and pregnacy.

[bradkb]

Recently joined and new to vaping.

Thirteen weeks ago we discovered my wife was 6 weeks pregnant, and even though we were trying again for our first, we were both shocked that it only took 2 weeks of trying, I guess 15 years of practice finally paid off.

We talked about giving up, both of us having smoked for over 25 years, it was going to be hard, we had given up before over 10 years ago using patches, but lasted a year, and both wanted an excuse again.

The midwife suggested we joined the NHS quit smoking service, and because my wife is pregnant she gets free perscriptions, so with a batch of gum, and other stuff (no patches as she is pregnant) we both quit.

I decided to give vaping a go, and got in to it (just built my first vv mod, but thats for another thread), and my wife started vaping as well as she found the gum useless, sprays horrible and the nicorette vapour disgusting.

For the first 2 weeks after finding out, she had a tough time, before if she saw a pregnant woman smoking, she was disgusted, now, different, she is finding it very hard, guess the hormones, but after 11 weeks off the ciggys, she like me prefers vaping instead of the over the counter quiting stuff.

The way we both look at it, how many chemicals are there in vaping compared to both ciggys and patches, does anyone know what else is in patches and gum?

We are lowering the dose in the e-liquid as we go, but the good part it is working, it helps and its a shed load cheaper, I am sticking the savings in our "baby fund" account, and so far have over £800 in there.

Wife gets through about 2ml a day of e-liquid, which compared to me is very little, and she is not craving a ciggy, so I could not want more, it would be nice if she didn't at all, but I remember the stress from the last time we gave up, and I would prefer she didn't have any.

Looking forward to our new addition in feb, and with the reason that we are both 40, we need to stay off ciggys so we can keep up with junior.

Brad