18 replies to this topic

[Robb]

After doing a few tests playing with the ratios in my mixes, i have found PG as like many others causes me to get tiny scabs in my nose and sometimes slight bleeding.
I realise VG is the answer to this problem, but i just dont like the stuff as a high percentage, it kills too much taste and th.

What im wondering is could my body eventually just get used to the PG? Im not using it 100% but around 70/30.

Anyone with ideas and experiences, please share.
Thank you

[MIDIManNI]

Robb

I don't have any real issues with either VG or PG but you could always try PEG-400 with your VG and see if that makes a difference...

VapourWorld do a number of E-Juices with a PEG/VG Mix - they call it their Best Mix 2 (BM2)and it is not too bad at all (although I think there is a chemical taste in the background).

Worth a look at any rate...

Later...

[THJahar]

I have an issue with PG (Closes up my airway)

So I switched to all VG, but honestly even though the vendors say it's all VG, it's usually 5% PG.

I've found in a month that I can tolerate it more. I'm ok on 30/70. 50/50 starts to close my chest up if I vape it all day. (when I first started I couldn't handle either ratios)

Secondly, the scabbing and bleeding is more likely down to your stopping the fags. Your circulation in those capillaries are returning, and the surface is trying to restore itself. (But as always GO SEE A DOCTOR)

[MIDIManNI]

Yes...as THJahar says - if you are in ANY doubt - ALWAYS SEE YOUR DOCTOR...!!!

Better safe than sorry...

Later...

[Robb]

Well i mix my own juices, i can tollorate lower ratios of pg, but i like high hehe. Have looked at peg, but im kinda thinking it will do the same to flavour and throat hit as vg?

As for the scabs, ive been vaping for 2 months now, i got them at the beginning when i started on pg, then they all went away when i switched to vg, but they are back now im vaping higher ratios of pg again? Seems like pg is effecting the skin inside my nose?

[Robb]

oh and im a guy, ive not got time to bother the doctor! But no if i cant figure out the issue i will pay a visit

[Robb]

I just tried some pure PG and it gave me a nose bleed within a couple of minutes, my nose started to feel really blocked so I went and blew my nose and then a nose bleed started, so guessing me and PG are not going to get along, Im just trying different mixes at the moment to find the point where my body can tollorate PG as It seems ok with 50% but I like the feel with a little more PG as it seems to give slightly more hit to the throat.

The only way I can explain it is Ive got 2 mixes of the same flavour juice with the same nic content, one is 40vg/60pg and one is 60vg/40pg, the differences are possibly slightly more vapour from the vg heavy one, possibly slightly more flavour from the pg heavy one, but neither of those are amazingly noticeable differences I can only tell as I am literally taking 3 tokes on one then swapping over, the main difference I am noticing is the throat hit, not in that either hits my throat hard, but when I inhale the VG one its too smooth and I cant feel the vapour going down, however with the pg one I can feel the vapour going down my throat and thats the feeling I miss with the higher VG ratios, this isnt what I could call the throat hit exactly but its a feeling I have found myself missing with VG liquids.

The more of this feeling I can achieve the better for myself Im just hoping my body can tolerate it hehe

[wizzz0]

i know what eve i tryed they all give me a score throat

[Kenny]

I can vape PG or VG and never had a problem. Maybe I'm just lucky. I do prefer PG though.

[JuicedUp]

I use VG and PEG400 as I can't stand the dry mouth and the muscle aches I get with PG.
PEG400 has its pros and cons, but apparently it does carry flavour a lot better than VG.

[tony20172]

I have just been vaping for five weeks ,and found that my nose feels runny and fluidy, also feels a bit like I might have a cold, but some how I feel thats its the pg that could be doing this I am not the sort of person to suffer alergys and I have invested quiet a large amount of cash in to vaping, so I am a bit concered, plus I thought that I was getting on very well with this new vaping , I have not tried the vg and other things mentioned yet

[Vapid]

Perhaps some of the symptoms mentioned here are more to do with the effects of smoking cessation than the fluid, at least for those in their first month or two of vaping.

That said I got a sore/tight throat & snotty snout after the first week or so (I've only been vaping for 5 weeks & thankfully not craved an analog since I started). After 4-5 days of this I switched to VG from the PG I started on. The symptoms subsided & after a few days I started experimenting with PG/VG mixes and now seem to have no adverse reactions - fortunately for me as my favorite flavours tend to be a mix.

As your question suggests maybe my body has grown accustomed to the new exposure. I guess I should try PG on its own for a few days to know for sure though.

[aroby89]

i cant vape pg on its one dont have to bad a reaction just sore raw throat

[Gibbo]

I do prefer 100% pg. When i first started vaping it did dry my throat. So i upped my fluid intake (usually a pint glass of water that i would sip from regularly) and all was well. It is a little harsher on my throat which i quite like (i used to smoke roll ups). Apart from the dryness i suffer no other side effects.

[kopite77]

I got baaaad migranes from pg based liquids and a chest that felt like an elephant had parked it's arse on it, so switched to vg liquids from paradise vapes and have to say i am well happy, flavours that i use atm are cherry coke, crimson cow and cherry tobacco thats just the tip of the iceberg as they make 200+ vg liquids! Doh!! I have no side effects from vg liquid and as i run and road bike alot in my spare time have only noticed that my times per run are dropping all the time, I am currently running 5 miles every other night at 8 minutes per mile, my weekend long run is 9.5 miles and am doing this at 9 miutes per mile pace which is good for a 43 yearold bloke! Been off the stinkies 6 weeks now and feel brilliant,Try telling me vapings unhealthy, not by what i'm finding its not! Love Vg, ok you don't get as much throat hit but for me its all about flavour and plumes of vapour and i'm getting both by the bucket load!

[Chasey]

100% pg is fine for me. Any hint of VG screws me up royaly though, even a bit in certain flavourings does me in. When I first started I got a bit of a dry/sore throat, and sometimes sensitive teeth?! But not any more, so you can definitely get used to it.

[arnokouros]

i prefer vg and no pg!

[Kim]

PG gives me nosebleeds too. And intense headaches. And accelerated heart rate. I'm ok up to about 10% PG if I alternate that with 100% VG. I've tried PEG (in the BM2 mix midimann mentioned) and it does give a good throat hit. And no noticeable side effects. Yet. It does have a taste though.

[wobblybob]

I started 6 months ago on PG juice and was fine apart from a tiny nose bleed .After my 1st month of vaping I started mixing my own at a 50/50 VG PG mix no problems .At month five I started getting itchy red blotches on my legs that looked like eczema or an allergy .I did think of what the causes could be as vaping is too enjoyable to be 100% risk free I was thinking it was the cause . A week or so ago I was down to my last DCC for my tank and wanted to swap flavours so began flushing the cart with some PG .As I blew the cart out in too a tissue I had a sneezing fit and watering eyes . To me that says PG is the problem as I'm currently vaping a 50/50 El torro and the itching is easing off .I started off ok on PG but seem to have developed a bit of an intolerance to it .My next juice orders are going to be VG mostly to see if this relieves the itching . When I first found UKV I did skim through posts on allergic reactions and thought not my problem thankfully .
Grizwald mentions problems with VG PG here
http://ukvapers.com/...d-vg-in-juices/
Its worth a read .