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[emmetyak]

Hi all,
My lips have recently gone dry, and started peeling and cracking, mostly just my top lip.
I'm usually a healthy chappie, not allergic to anything.
I mostly use Dekang liquids, but I'm sometimes not sure if it's PG, VG, or both.
Has anyone else had this, and do you think it could be a reaction to PG or VG?

Thankee kindly!

[Digisatman]

It's most probably the nicotine, form over spill if using a tank

[hifistud]

You haven't been kissing any mucky women, have you?? The wind would always crack my lips - cold weather has that effect, and we haven't exactly had an Indian summer this year...

[MightyMouse]

I find that during the weather change, dryness to lips, fingers or any other exposed body parts can dry out do to the colder climate. How long have you been a vaper? When did you first notice the dry lips? How severe is the dryness? Do you use PG, VG or the combination of? If you use a combination of PG and VG, what are the ratios? I'm no doctor, nor do I play one on tv, but I would try to apply a lip moisturizer and go from there. Please keep us updated on your progress. Some do have allergic reactions from vaping either PG or VG or the mixture of which is natural for ones that are sensitive to any environmental change in their lives. There have been reports of simple dry mouth to on slot of the Hershey squirts. In most cases, the mixture change to the base liquid used had reduced or eliminated the problem altogether. Just like some that have made changes in their lives allergic to peanuts or milk, vaping can also be a enjoyed thoroughly with just a few minor adjustments.

Best of luck

[emmetyak]

Heh heh, no mucky women involved, and I use Boge cartos with a drip tip, so I don't think it's that.
Like I say, I'm an unusually healthy chappy, didn't even get chapped lips on hols in Russia at minus 40 degrees!

I've been vaping for a few months, slowly withdrew from the cigs, the last one being 6 weeks ago, the dryness started a couple of weeks ago.

I'm not always sure what mixture of bases are in the liquids, as some vendors don't say. I've got a bottle of pure VG that I got from Healthcabin, I'll just use that til it's finished and see if it makes any difference. I'll let you know if that does it.

Thanks for your advice, all, I just wondered if it was a common symptom related to a certain base.

[VapeDude]

Hi Emitayak, as everyone has been saying, there are so many variables here it is difficult to pin point. Here are a few observations and conclusions that I have made regarding the subject, hope these are of some use:

I find that with the acidic juices, I get cracked lips or fingers from handling or tasting the juice sometimes. Some of the sweeter tobacco juices or the fruity juices are likely to contain acidic flavour bases. These bases are no more dangerous than eating some fruit or drinking a sugarfree soft drink. PG and VG are what I would call mutual solvents (exhibiting solubility in both water and oil). As they are soluble in oil (to a certain extent) they will solublise or dissolve it. Your natural skin oils (collectively known as sebum) will therefore be dissolved by the PG or VG. If you get it on your skin, the VG or PG can 'wash away' these oils and when you wipe off the PG/VG you are effectively taking some skin oils with it. A bit like if you get petrol or nail varnish remover on your skin (it will appear dry when you remove it) - tell me how I know that lol

That is a very extreme example though, but it is the only everyday stark example that came to mind. Petrol and nail varnish remover are very aggressive oil dissolvers in comparison to PG and VG, they are also in a different class legally (flammable/irritant/harmful etc...).

There is really nothing to worry about here (nevertheless, good to have bit of a chat about it), as the solubility of your skin oils in PG or VG is not very significant in comparison to petrol or other more aggressive solvents. Also, your skin is not comming into contact with much PG or VG (unless you are packing or bottling the stuff). Simply make sure you moisturise regularly to maintain fairy soft skin lol Loads of things that dry out your skin everyday are considered more dangerous, for example UV light lol

PG and VG are not usually considered allergenic, pretty much the opposite really, infact their 'hypoallergenic' (not likely to cause allergic reactions) property is one reason why they are so heavily used in cosmetics. Some people have been known to be allergic, but if you have only experienced the symptoms that you talked about, I would highly doubt that you are allergic to them at vaping doses. Drawing the vapour into your lungs would illicit a response much worse that a chapped lip if you were.

Hope these ramblings give you a bit more info on the subject, very interesting to think about indeed!

Keep on vaping!

Cheers
Pete

[Dellboy]

I had really dry lips for the first 2 months that I vaped. I just got some chap sick and applied it two or three times a day.

After a while I just found that I didn't need it but I was perfectly happy to have used it permanently if that was the only down side to vaping that I experienced.

[FlamingKaty]

Dellboy, on 20 September 2011 - 11:45 PM, said:

I had really dry lips for the first 2 months that I vaped. I just got some chap sick and applied it two or three times a day.

After a while I just found that I didn't need it but I was perfectly happy to have used it permanently if that was the only down side to vaping that I experienced.

And let's face it, snoggably soft lips are always a bonus, eh Dell .

[VapeDude]

lol

[emmetyak]

Aha!
Vapedude, I think you might have nailed it! The dryness coincides exactly with my developing a penchant for RY4, as opposed to my usual plain tobacco flavours, I think it may be the sweetness, like you say.

So, all I have to do is decide whether to go back to tobacco flavours, or as Dellboy says, get used to the (it has to be said, slightly effeminite) act of putting on chapstick all the time!

Thanks guys!

[Dellboy]

sure are katy heheheh

[VapeDude]

Yes, probably, you never know though, your body may get used to it and be able to compensate at some point though, difficult one.
Happy Vaping

emmetyak, on 21 September 2011 - 07:42 AM, said:

Aha!
Vapedude, I think you might have nailed it! The dryness coincides exactly with my developing a penchant for RY4, as opposed to my usual plain tobacco flavours, I think it may be the sweetness, like you say.

So, all I have to do is decide whether to go back to tobacco flavours, or as Dellboy says, get used to the (it has to be said, slightly effeminite) act of putting on chapstick all the time!

Thanks guys!